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Žalosno je da je ovoliko problema u novogradnji. U startu nije napravljena kako treba, pitamo se što će biti za deset godina – komentiraju nam pojedini stanari zgrada POS-a II u Novoj Mokošici, koje smo posjetili kako bismo doznali s kojim se sve problemima nose u stanovima u koje su se uselili prije niti šest godina.

Naime, zbog niza utvrđenih nedostataka, nastalih propustima pri gradnji i nekvalitetno izvedenim radovima, kako su objasnili iz gradske uprave, Agencija za društveno poticanu stanogradnju Grada Dubrovnika i Dječji vrtići "Dubrovnik" podnijeli su na Trgovačkom sudu u Dubrovniku tužbeni zahtjev prema izvođaču radova na POS-ovim zgradama, društvu "Lavčević" d.d. iz Splita, jer ih odbija ukloniti.

Voda izvire kroz zidove

– Pogledajte onu vodu koja izvire kroz zidove. Vodi treba zagraditi put jer to će sve jednom krenuti naprijed. Mi smo ovdje na skliskom terenu – kažu nam stanari koje smo susreli ispred zgrade, ukazujući na probleme kojih ne nedostaje ni u zajedničkim dijelovima tog stambenog bloka. Spominju i zid ispod bloka POS II.

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– Na tom zidu, zbog čije smo se gradnje čak kasnije uselili u stanove, uopće nisu napravljene fuge, samo je kamen zalijepljen i naslagan. Sada se te ploče pomiču, tako da su na ulicu već pala tri, četiri velika komada. Idem cestom, a ne uz taj zid jer me je strah. I ove pločice na podu pred zgradama nešto je podignulo, sve se potpuhalo – govori nam jedna stanarka dok prstom pokazuje primjetno neravan i oštećen popločani prolaz među zgradama.

Iako, na sreću, nema problema u svojem stanu, jedan vlasnik POS-ova stana rekao nam je da ih njegova susjeda itekako ima. Unutarnji zidovi "odlijepili" su se od vanjskih i od stropa, pa za jače bure doslovno plešu. Uvjerili smo se i sami u procijepe na spojevima zidova, koji su svake godine, tvrde nam, sve širi. Drugoj susjedi jako prokišnjava.

– Čim padne kiša, ona je s kadinom u rukama jer kapa u stanu – kaže nam ovaj stanar. Fasada otpada.

Oborinska odvodnja ne funkcionira

– Nama su bile fleke na plafonu od banje, puštalo je od samog početka kroz susjedine pločice, odvod iz vodokotlića nije bio u redu. Voda nam kroz odvod kade od samog početka sporo teče kao da ga nešto blokira, jedno tuširanje i moraš gumom protiskivati – opisuje nam jedna stanarka.

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Svatko se muči kako zna i može, sami saniraju propuste da bi osigurali normalne uvjete života u stanovima na koje su mnogi godinama strpljivo čekali u podstanarstvu. Neki su, kažu nam, o svojem trošku ponovno izolirali prozore jer im je vlažilo u stanu sa svakog od njih. Kad kiši, tu su slapovi, kažu pa prstom pokazuju na stube koje iz garaže vode do ulaza u zgrade.

– Oborinska odvodnja ne funkcionira, voda se zadržava, svugdje se zeleni od ležanja vode. Nama je u lođi već sve zeleno, voda se nakuplja. Ali još je to dobro jer, zamislite, moja susjeda, kad pada kiša, treba preskakati preko vode da bi došla do vrata stana – govori nam stanarka pa nas vodi do tarace i odvoda koji, kako kaže, ne funkcionira pa sva voda otječe u garažu. Govore nam i kako je na parkiralištu tik uz parkirno mjesto postavljen sustav protupožarne zaštite.

– Prodaju nekome parkirno mjesto i čovjek uredno parkira. Ne daj Bože požara, što će, lomiti mu auto da dođu do vatrogasnog crijeva? – pitaju se stanari, pa nam daju do znanja kako je ovo "moderna gradnja s prestižnim nagradama". Da ne bi samo o lošim stvarima, ima i dobrih.

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– Izolacija je perfektna, zimi palimo klimu samo nekoliko puta – kaže nam stanarka.

– Kad smo se useljavali, nije nam ništa bilo bitno, nego samo da uđemo u svoj stan, da više ne budemo podstanari. Tko je gledao nedostatke?! I onda ti danas kažu "što hoćeš, dobio si ga džabe", jer je POS pa je takvo mišljenje. Nema tu kraja, reći će da su dobili uporabnu dozvolu, bio je nadzor, nema kraja toj trakavici. Moraš, koliko tko može, sam rješavati svoj problem – zaključuju stanari koje smo zatekli pred zgradom.

Vlaži i u dječjem vrtiću

Iako u tamošnji Dječji vrtić "Sunce", koji se nalazi u prizemlju jedne od zgrada, nismo mogli ući, iz gradske uprave ukazali su i na probleme s prodorom vode u tu odgojnu ustanovu.

– Vlaži dio stropa, tragovi prodora vode vidljivi su s fasade, iznad prozora, pokraj izlaza na balkon, a iza namještaja su se već stvorile i gljivice od vlaženja – objasnili su u Gradu.

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Podsjetimo, APOS i DV Dubrovnik ističu kako izvođač radova nije postupio u skladu s obvezama koje je preuzeo ugovorom o izvođenju radova i dokumentacijom na osnovi koje su se izvodili radovi. Zbog toga, tvrde, na građevini postoje brojni nedostaci koji se tiču mehaničke otpornosti i stabilnosti, sigurnosti u slučaju požara, pristupačnosti tijekom uporabe, zaštite od buke i slično.

Sukladno nalazu i mišljenju vještaka kao dijelu tužbenog zahtjeva, može se zaključiti kako je tijekom gradnje tuženik bitno odstupio u gradnji zgrada i stanova, da postoje nepravilnosti pri izvođenju završnih i instalaterskih radova, ali i da su nekvalitetno izvedeni radovi koji se odnose na fasadu, instalacije i izolacije cijevi. Ističe se da nedostaci ulaze u bitne zahtjeve za građevinu u smislu higijene, zdravlja i zaštite okoliša, te da je ugrožena i sigurnost pri korištenju, a tijekom uporabe moguće su ozljede vlasnika i korisnika zgrade.

S obzirom na to da izvođač nije uklonio ni sanirao opisane nedostatke, tužitelji u svojem zahtjevu Trgovačkom sudu u Dubrovniku predlažu da presudom naloži društvu "Lavčević" d.d. potpunu sanaciju na nekretninama i uklanjanje svih nedostataka koje navode, odnosno da tužiteljima u protivnom isplati vrijednost navedenih radova koja će se odrediti stručnim vještačenjem. Agencija i Dječji vrtići "Dubrovnik" traže i nadoknadu troškova za radove koje su, radi uklanjanja nedostataka, sami izveli preko trećih osoba, a čiji će se iznosi također specificirati nakon provedenih vještačenja.

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Iz ‘Lavčevića‘ bez komentara

Kontaktirali smo izvođače radova društvo "Lavčević" d.d., koji nisu htjeli komentirati cijeli slučaj, nego su nas u vezi s tim uputili na investitora.

Podsjetimo, Grad Dubrovnik je u suradnji s Agencijom za pravni promet i posredovanje nekretninama (APN) 2004. godine započeo, a 2007. završio prvi projekt društveno poticane stanogradnje, izgrađeno je, prodano i useljeno 67 stanova.

Grad je putem APN-a 2017. završio i drugi projekt – POS II Mokošica s ukupno 64 izgrađena stana, za koja je Grad osigurao zemljište, infrastrukturu i nepovratnu subvenciju za troškove građenja u iznosu od pet milijuna kuna.

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Žalosno je da je ovoliko problema u novogradnji. U startu nije napravljena kako treba, pitamo se što će biti za deset godina – komentiraju nam pojedini stanari zgrada POS-a II u Novoj Mokošici, koje smo posjetili kako bismo doznali s kojim se sve problemima nose u stanovima u koje su se uselili prije niti šest godina.

Naime, zbog niza utvrđenih nedostataka, nastalih propustima pri gradnji i nekvalitetno izvedenim radovima, kako su objasnili iz gradske uprave, Agencija za društveno poticanu stanogradnju Grada Dubrovnika i Dječji vrtići "Dubrovnik" podnijeli su na Trgovačkom sudu u Dubrovniku tužbeni zahtjev prema izvođaču radova na POS-ovim zgradama, društvu "Lavčević" d.d. iz Splita, jer ih odbija ukloniti.

Voda izvire kroz zidove

– Pogledajte onu vodu koja izvire kroz zidove. Vodi treba zagraditi put jer to će sve jednom krenuti naprijed. Mi smo ovdje na skliskom terenu – kažu nam stanari koje smo susreli ispred zgrade, ukazujući na probleme kojih ne nedostaje ni u zajedničkim dijelovima tog stambenog bloka. Spominju i zid ispod bloka POS II.

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– Na tom zidu, zbog čije smo se gradnje čak kasnije uselili u stanove, uopće nisu napravljene fuge, samo je kamen zalijepljen i naslagan. Sada se te ploče pomiču, tako da su na ulicu već pala tri, četiri velika komada. Idem cestom, a ne uz taj zid jer me je strah. I ove pločice na podu pred zgradama nešto je podignulo, sve se potpuhalo – govori nam jedna stanarka dok prstom pokazuje primjetno neravan i oštećen popločani prolaz među zgradama.

Iako, na sreću, nema problema u svojem stanu, jedan vlasnik POS-ova stana rekao nam je da ih njegova susjeda itekako ima. Unutarnji zidovi "odlijepili" su se od vanjskih i od stropa, pa za jače bure doslovno plešu. Uvjerili smo se i sami u procijepe na spojevima zidova, koji su svake godine, tvrde nam, sve širi. Drugoj susjedi jako prokišnjava.

– Čim padne kiša, ona je s kadinom u rukama jer kapa u stanu – kaže nam ovaj stanar. Fasada otpada.

Oborinska odvodnja ne funkcionira

– Nama su bile fleke na plafonu od banje, puštalo je od samog početka kroz susjedine pločice, odvod iz vodokotlića nije bio u redu. Voda nam kroz odvod kade od samog početka sporo teče kao da ga nešto blokira, jedno tuširanje i moraš gumom protiskivati – opisuje nam jedna stanarka.

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Svatko se muči kako zna i može, sami saniraju propuste da bi osigurali normalne uvjete života u stanovima na koje su mnogi godinama strpljivo čekali u podstanarstvu. Neki su, kažu nam, o svojem trošku ponovno izolirali prozore jer im je vlažilo u stanu sa svakog od njih. Kad kiši, tu su slapovi, kažu pa prstom pokazuju na stube koje iz garaže vode do ulaza u zgrade.

– Oborinska odvodnja ne funkcionira, voda se zadržava, svugdje se zeleni od ležanja vode. Nama je u lođi već sve zeleno, voda se nakuplja. Ali još je to dobro jer, zamislite, moja susjeda, kad pada kiša, treba preskakati preko vode da bi došla do vrata stana – govori nam stanarka pa nas vodi do tarace i odvoda koji, kako kaže, ne funkcionira pa sva voda otječe u garažu. Govore nam i kako je na parkiralištu tik uz parkirno mjesto postavljen sustav protupožarne zaštite.

– Prodaju nekome parkirno mjesto i čovjek uredno parkira. Ne daj Bože požara, što će, lomiti mu auto da dođu do vatrogasnog crijeva? – pitaju se stanari, pa nam daju do znanja kako je ovo "moderna gradnja s prestižnim nagradama". Da ne bi samo o lošim stvarima, ima i dobrih.

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– Izolacija je perfektna, zimi palimo klimu samo nekoliko puta – kaže nam stanarka.

– Kad smo se useljavali, nije nam ništa bilo bitno, nego samo da uđemo u svoj stan, da više ne budemo podstanari. Tko je gledao nedostatke?! I onda ti danas kažu "što hoćeš, dobio si ga džabe", jer je POS pa je takvo mišljenje. Nema tu kraja, reći će da su dobili uporabnu dozvolu, bio je nadzor, nema kraja toj trakavici. Moraš, koliko tko može, sam rješavati svoj problem – zaključuju stanari koje smo zatekli pred zgradom.

Vlaži i u dječjem vrtiću

Iako u tamošnji Dječji vrtić "Sunce", koji se nalazi u prizemlju jedne od zgrada, nismo mogli ući, iz gradske uprave ukazali su i na probleme s prodorom vode u tu odgojnu ustanovu.

– Vlaži dio stropa, tragovi prodora vode vidljivi su s fasade, iznad prozora, pokraj izlaza na balkon, a iza namještaja su se već stvorile i gljivice od vlaženja – objasnili su u Gradu.

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Podsjetimo, APOS i DV Dubrovnik ističu kako izvođač radova nije postupio u skladu s obvezama koje je preuzeo ugovorom o izvođenju radova i dokumentacijom na osnovi koje su se izvodili radovi. Zbog toga, tvrde, na građevini postoje brojni nedostaci koji se tiču mehaničke otpornosti i stabilnosti, sigurnosti u slučaju požara, pristupačnosti tijekom uporabe, zaštite od buke i slično.

Sukladno nalazu i mišljenju vještaka kao dijelu tužbenog zahtjeva, može se zaključiti kako je tijekom gradnje tuženik bitno odstupio u gradnji zgrada i stanova, da postoje nepravilnosti pri izvođenju završnih i instalaterskih radova, ali i da su nekvalitetno izvedeni radovi koji se odnose na fasadu, instalacije i izolacije cijevi. Ističe se da nedostaci ulaze u bitne zahtjeve za građevinu u smislu higijene, zdravlja i zaštite okoliša, te da je ugrožena i sigurnost pri korištenju, a tijekom uporabe moguće su ozljede vlasnika i korisnika zgrade.

S obzirom na to da izvođač nije uklonio ni sanirao opisane nedostatke, tužitelji u svojem zahtjevu Trgovačkom sudu u Dubrovniku predlažu da presudom naloži društvu "Lavčević" d.d. potpunu sanaciju na nekretninama i uklanjanje svih nedostataka koje navode, odnosno da tužiteljima u protivnom isplati vrijednost navedenih radova koja će se odrediti stručnim vještačenjem. Agencija i Dječji vrtići "Dubrovnik" traže i nadoknadu troškova za radove koje su, radi uklanjanja nedostataka, sami izveli preko trećih osoba, a čiji će se iznosi također specificirati nakon provedenih vještačenja.

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Iz ‘Lavčevića‘ bez komentara

Kontaktirali smo izvođače radova društvo "Lavčević" d.d., koji nisu htjeli komentirati cijeli slučaj, nego su nas u vezi s tim uputili na investitora.

Podsjetimo, Grad Dubrovnik je u suradnji s Agencijom za pravni promet i posredovanje nekretninama (APN) 2004. godine započeo, a 2007. završio prvi projekt društveno poticane stanogradnje, izgrađeno je, prodano i useljeno 67 stanova.

Grad je putem APN-a 2017. završio i drugi projekt – POS II Mokošica s ukupno 64 izgrađena stana, za koja je Grad osigurao zemljište, infrastrukturu i nepovratnu subvenciju za troškove građenja u iznosu od pet milijuna kuna.

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ObalaMUKE STANARA

Prije manje od šest godina uselili u nove stanove, a već žive u ruini: Zgrada prokišnjava, odljepljuju se pločice, otpada fasada... Ovo vam je moderna, nagrađivana gradnja!

Piše Kristina Filičić
28. veljače 2022. - 13:06
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Žalosno je da je ovoliko problema u novogradnji. U startu nije napravljena kako treba, pitamo se što će biti za deset godina – komentiraju nam pojedini stanari zgrada POS-a II u Novoj Mokošici, koje smo posjetili kako bismo doznali s kojim se sve problemima nose u stanovima u koje su se uselili prije niti šest godina.

Naime, zbog niza utvrđenih nedostataka, nastalih propustima pri gradnji i nekvalitetno izvedenim radovima, kako su objasnili iz gradske uprave, Agencija za društveno poticanu stanogradnju Grada Dubrovnika i Dječji vrtići "Dubrovnik" podnijeli su na Trgovačkom sudu u Dubrovniku tužbeni zahtjev prema izvođaču radova na POS-ovim zgradama, društvu "Lavčević" d.d. iz Splita, jer ih odbija ukloniti.

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